Discussion:
Text size
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hls
2009-07-10 18:17:15 UTC
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This one had me for a while. A customer for a longest was reminding
us "Please change the size of your help font size. Its too big."

Not really sure what he was talking about, I have a common style sheet
and have fonts under desire control.

But now I just saw it. Under an older development box (2000) one I
have long stopped using for web browsing, I tested my applet F1 help
to display the CHM help and voila - the font was LARGE.

It didn't hit me immediately, but I remembered that CHM help uses the
IE settings. So I popped up IE on this 2000 box and the text

VIEW | TEXT SIZE ==> Largest

Yes, I hit the 1/2 century mark - eyes are going :-)

The question:

Is there a way I can control the size in the CHM to keep a consistent
size and/or maybe offer the user a menu item for text size change via
the CHM?

What do you suggest to best approach this?

Thanks

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Rob Chandler [MVP]
2009-07-11 03:22:00 UTC
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Hi
Adobe Flash help has the same problem. I need to set the size in Explorer
before opening help :-(

A couple of suggestions ...

1. Ctrl+MouseWheel

You can use Ctrl+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out of a page.
Although if the help author uses a fixed size font in the CSS
instead of a % size then it may not work.
:-( I just tried this under IE7 and it no longer works.

2. Add a Font "Text Zoom" button to the Help window.

Authoring programs like FAR HTML will let you add a Font button to the
Help windows Toolbar so you can cycle through the IE font sizes.

If your authoring tool does not offer this then try editing your
.HHP file in NotePad

EG. My .HHP contains this window def

[WINDOWS]
main="FAR Online
Help","farhelp.hhc","farhelp.hhk","index.htm","index.htm",,,,,0x73520,222,0x601846,[100,100,888,782],0xB0000,,,,,,0

If I add the Font Text Zoom option it goes to

[WINDOWS]
main="FAR Online
Help","farhelp.hhc","farhelp.hhk","index.htm","index.htm",,,,,0x73520,222,0x701846,[100,100,888,782],0xB0000,,,,,,0

So did you see the 0x601846 value go to 0x701846 ?

So the Font text size = x100000

If you add this you will have the Font Size button.

3. Option 3 is to author your CSS with a Fixed Font size.
Which breaks accessibility completely so I don't recommend that.

Cheers
Rob
Help MVP
http://Helpware.net/FAR/
Post by hls
This one had me for a while. A customer for a longest was reminding
us "Please change the size of your help font size. Its too big."
Not really sure what he was talking about, I have a common style sheet and
have fonts under desire control.
But now I just saw it. Under an older development box (2000) one I have
long stopped using for web browsing, I tested my applet F1 help to display
the CHM help and voila - the font was LARGE.
It didn't hit me immediately, but I remembered that CHM help uses the IE
settings. So I popped up IE on this 2000 box and the text
VIEW | TEXT SIZE ==> Largest
Yes, I hit the 1/2 century mark - eyes are going :-)
Is there a way I can control the size in the CHM to keep a consistent size
and/or maybe offer the user a menu item for text size change via the CHM?
What do you suggest to best approach this?
Thanks
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hls
2009-07-13 12:06:04 UTC
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Post by Rob Chandler [MVP]
EG. My .HHP contains this window def
[WINDOWS]
main="FAR Online
Help","farhelp.hhc","farhelp.hhk","index.htm","index.htm",,,,,0x73520,222,0x601846,[100,100,888,782],0xB0000,,,,,,0
If I add the Font Text Zoom option it goes to
[WINDOWS]
main="FAR Online
Help","farhelp.hhc","farhelp.hhk","index.htm","index.htm",,,,,0x73520,222,0x701846,[100,100,888,782],0xB0000,,,,,,0
So did you see the 0x601846 value go to 0x701846 ?
So the Font text size = x100000
If you add this you will have the Font Size button.
3. Option 3 is to author your CSS with a Fixed Font size.
Which breaks accessibility completely so I don't recommend that.
I tried this and all I saw was that my content and index tabs were
gone. I didn't see anything related to font. Maybe I missed something?

What i have now in my hhp is:

[OPTIONS]
Default Window=wctype

[WINDOWS]
wctype=,"wcsslConfig.hhc","wcsslConfig.hhk","html\index.htm",,"html\index.htm",,,,0x3520,,0x3006,,,,,,,,0

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Rob Chandler [MVP]
2009-07-15 03:14:16 UTC
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You don't have the bit set correctly
Post by hls
Post by Rob Chandler [MVP]
So the Font text size = x100000
If I add that bit into your help....
Post by hls
wctype=,"wcsslConfig.hhc","wcsslConfig.hhk","html\index.htm",,"html\index.htm",,,,0x3520,,0x3006,,,,,,,,0
I would have
Post by hls
wctype=,"wcsslConfig.hhc","wcsslConfig.hhk","html\index.htm",,"html\index.htm",,,,0x3520,,0x103006,,,,,,,,0
Get the idea?
I encourage you to download FAR (see link below) so you can edit the HHC
file more easily. Shareware.

Cheers
Rob

Robert Chandler
MS Help MVP
http://helpware.net/FAR/
Post by hls
Post by Rob Chandler [MVP]
EG. My .HHP contains this window def
[WINDOWS]
main="FAR Online
Help","farhelp.hhc","farhelp.hhk","index.htm","index.htm",,,,,0x73520,222,0x601846,[100,100,888,782],0xB0000,,,,,,0
If I add the Font Text Zoom option it goes to
[WINDOWS]
main="FAR Online
Help","farhelp.hhc","farhelp.hhk","index.htm","index.htm",,,,,0x73520,222,0x701846,[100,100,888,782],0xB0000,,,,,,0
So did you see the 0x601846 value go to 0x701846 ?
So the Font text size = x100000
If you add this you will have the Font Size button.
3. Option 3 is to author your CSS with a Fixed Font size.
Which breaks accessibility completely so I don't recommend that.
I tried this and all I saw was that my content and index tabs were gone. I
didn't see anything related to font. Maybe I missed something?
[OPTIONS]
Default Window=wctype
[WINDOWS]
wctype=,"wcsslConfig.hhc","wcsslConfig.hhk","html\index.htm",,"html\index.htm",,,,0x3520,,0x3006,,,,,,,,0
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