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Full-text index is not generated in HTML Workshop
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Frank
2008-06-13 13:53:04 UTC
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Hello, everybody,

I have an issue with HTML Help Workshop that puzzles me quite a bit: It
does not create a full-text index, no matter what the setting of "Full-text
search" is.

Using a full-text index that is already in a chm file works fine. I just
can't create it.

I use the following version of HTML Help Workshop that I loaded from
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms669985(VS.85).aspx today:

HHW: 4.74.8702.0
HHA: 4.74.8702.0
ITCC: 4.72.7277.0

As I said, it doesn't matter if I set "Full-text search=Yes" in the HHP
file.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Regards,

Frank
Pete Lees
2008-06-13 14:05:02 UTC
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Hi, Frank,
Post by Frank
I have an issue with HTML Help Workshop that puzzles me quite a bit: It
does not create a full-text index, no matter what the setting of "Full-text
search" is.
I'd recommend that you download and run MJ's Help Diagnostics, which is
available from here:

http://helpware.net/downloads/index.htm#MJs

The likelihood is that one of the DLLs that the compiler uses to assemble
the full-text search "database" is missing or incorrectly registered. MJ's
Help Diagnostics will fix that for you.

Pete
Frank
2008-06-13 14:17:01 UTC
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Hi, Pete

and thanks for your answer. I ran the program and it did not show any
problems. Everything is there and registered correctly. It just does not
generate a full-text index...

File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\cnvcnt.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\cnvtoc.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\gencnv.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\hhcout.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\hhkout.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\itcc.dll (Version: 4.72.7277.0)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\navout.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\spcom.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\sprbuild.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\spredit.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\sprfile.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\sprlog.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\hhw.exe (Version: 4.74.8702.0)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\advpack.dll (Version: 5.0.2116.100)
File Found: ...\hhsetup.dll (Version: 5.2.3790.309)
File Found: ...\hha.dll (Version: 4.74.8702.0)

Regards,

Frank
Post by Pete Lees
Hi, Frank,
Post by Frank
I have an issue with HTML Help Workshop that puzzles me quite a bit: It
does not create a full-text index, no matter what the setting of "Full-text
search" is.
I'd recommend that you download and run MJ's Help Diagnostics, which is
http://helpware.net/downloads/index.htm#MJs
The likelihood is that one of the DLLs that the compiler uses to assemble
the full-text search "database" is missing or incorrectly registered. MJ's
Help Diagnostics will fix that for you.
Pete
Pete Lees
2008-06-13 14:51:01 UTC
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Hi, again,

To clarify, are you referring to the full-text search function or the index
function? These are two separate functions with different setup requirements.
The index function requires you to add at least one index keyword, either
added to a .hhk file or embedded in an HTML topic file. If the problem is
with the full-text search function, is the Search tab present, and what
happens when you try to run a search?

If you've defined one or more secondary windows, have you chosen to include
the required tabs in the window -- Contents, Index, Search, and so on?

Here is a good tutorial on using HTML Help Workshop that may help:

http://frogleg.mvps.org/helptechnologies/htmlhelp/hhtutorials.html#char_hhw

Pete
Rob Chandler [MVP]
2008-06-16 02:07:25 UTC
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Frank I need to see the whole log. hhctrl.ocx version isn't there.
Please attach to a post.

Also are you making foreign language help on say an Eng PC? This can lose
search if settings are not correct.

Rob
--
Rob Chandler
MS Help MVP
http://helpware.net
Post by Frank
Hi, Pete
and thanks for your answer. I ran the program and it did not show any
problems. Everything is there and registered correctly. It just does not
generate a full-text index...
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\cnvcnt.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\cnvtoc.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\gencnv.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\hhcout.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\hhkout.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\itcc.dll (Version: 4.72.7277.0)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\navout.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\spcom.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\sprbuild.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\spredit.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\sprfile.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\sprlog.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\hhw.exe (Version: 4.74.8702.0)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\advpack.dll (Version: 5.0.2116.100)
File Found: ...\hhsetup.dll (Version: 5.2.3790.309)
File Found: ...\hha.dll (Version: 4.74.8702.0)
Regards,
Frank
Post by Pete Lees
Hi, Frank,
Post by Frank
I have an issue with HTML Help Workshop that puzzles me quite a bit: It
does not create a full-text index, no matter what the setting of "Full-text
search" is.
I'd recommend that you download and run MJ's Help Diagnostics, which is
http://helpware.net/downloads/index.htm#MJs
The likelihood is that one of the DLLs that the compiler uses to assemble
the full-text search "database" is missing or incorrectly registered. MJ's
Help Diagnostics will fix that for you.
Pete
JCD
2010-11-29 13:44:04 UTC
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Hello,
I have the same problem as the author of this thread and it must be the foreign language help on an Eng PC. What are the correct settings that I must use? Thanks in advance.
Post by Frank
Hello, everybody,
I have an issue with HTML Help Workshop that puzzles me quite a bit: It
does not create a full-text index, no matter what the setting of "Full-text
search" is.
Using a full-text index that is already in a chm file works fine. I just
can't create it.
I use the following version of HTML Help Workshop that I loaded from
HHW: 4.74.8702.0
HHA: 4.74.8702.0
ITCC: 4.72.7277.0
As I said, it doesn't matter if I set "Full-text search=Yes" in the HHP
file.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Frank
Post by Pete Lees
Hi, Frank,
I'd recommend that you download and run MJ's Help Diagnostics, which is
http://helpware.net/downloads/index.htm#MJs
The likelihood is that one of the DLLs that the compiler uses to assemble
the full-text search "database" is missing or incorrectly registered. MJ's
Help Diagnostics will fix that for you.
Pete
Post by Frank
Hi, Pete
and thanks for your answer. I ran the program and it did not show any
problems. Everything is there and registered correctly. It just does not
generate a full-text index...
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\cnvcnt.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\cnvtoc.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\gencnv.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\hhcout.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\hhkout.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\itcc.dll (Version: 4.72.7277.0)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\navout.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\spcom.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\sprbuild.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\spredit.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\sprfile.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\sprlog.dll (Version: 2.0.0.119)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\hhw.exe (Version: 4.74.8702.0)
File Found: ...\HTML Help Workshop\advpack.dll (Version: 5.0.2116.100)
File Found: ...\hhsetup.dll (Version: 5.2.3790.309)
File Found: ...\hha.dll (Version: 4.74.8702.0)
Regards,
Frank
Post by Pete Lees
Hi, again,
To clarify, are you referring to the full-text search function or the index
function? These are two separate functions with different setup requirements.
The index function requires you to add at least one index keyword, either
added to a .hhk file or embedded in an HTML topic file. If the problem is
with the full-text search function, is the Search tab present, and what
happens when you try to run a search?
If you've defined one or more secondary windows, have you chosen to include
the required tabs in the window -- Contents, Index, Search, and so on?
http://frogleg.mvps.org/helptechnologies/htmlhelp/hhtutorials.html#char_hhw
Pete
Post by Rob Chandler [MVP]
Frank I need to see the whole log. hhctrl.ocx version isn't there.
Please attach to a post.
Also are you making foreign language help on say an Eng PC? This can lose
search if settings are not correct.
Rob
--
Rob Chandler
MS Help MVP
http://helpware.net
Post by apler
This could be due to leaving or setting Binary index = no/false. Binary index
option must be yes/true for either auto-index or full-text search to succeed.
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Reto
2011-01-13 20:22:56 UTC
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Hello to everybody!

Has some-one solved their problem?

I have the same (or maybe similar) problem.
If I open the compiled CHM file directly, the search funtion works.
When I call the CMH file trough my VB6 application, it displays fine
the requested page but it is not possbile to perform a full-text
search - the tab is there but it is not possible to write the searched
therm!

Any ideas someone?

Ciao!
Reto
l***@bigpond.com
2017-03-12 08:33:07 UTC
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Post by Reto
Hello to everybody!
Has some-one solved their problem?
I have the same (or maybe similar) problem.
If I open the compiled CHM file directly, the search funtion works.
When I call the CMH file trough my VB6 application, it displays fine
the requested page but it is not possbile to perform a full-text
search - the tab is there but it is not possible to write the searched
therm!
Any ideas someone?
Ciao!
Reto
More than 6 years on, all the links here have gone. All that's left is http://www.help-info.de/en/Help_Info_HTMLHelp/hh.htm
http://helpmaster.helpmvp.com
Was looking for an index generator but all the linked utilities have vanished, sadly.

http://www.helpmaster.info/hh-developmentaids-mkindex.htm
Gone
http://www.helpmaster.info/hh-developmentaids-hhkbuilder.htm
Gone
If anyone has copies of these files please post.
However, found that by including something like the following:

<meta Name="MS-HKWD" content="keyword">

will automatically generate an index item for keyword, but the better way is to edit the items in the Index.hhk file directly with code like the following:

<OBJECT type="text/sitemap">
<param name="Name" value="SomeTopic">
<param name="Local" value="SomeTopic.htm">
</OBJECT>
Robert Chandler
2017-03-13 03:10:41 UTC
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Nice to see that these Google duplicates of the old MS forums survived. Wish I could say the same about MS owned groups - LOL - Go Google.

So links

* MJ's diagnostics is maintained here:
http://kb.helpwaregroup.com/ms-html-help/mj-s-diagnostics

Often 3rd party programs corrupt the set of MS DLLs (DLL hell)
by installing old MS DLLs into mix. This will pick this nasty stuff
that causes search etc to stop working.

* The FAR HTML Toc/Index editor will generate a startup index / TOC
for you using your HTML files. And has a good editor -
http://www.helpwaregroup.com/products/far

The Helpmaster files are gone unfortunately when Josef passed away the family preserved his site but not downloads.

* http://www.helpmaster.info/hh-developmentaids-mkindex.htm
* http://www.helpmaster.info/hh-developmentaids-hhkbuilder.htm

The Help MVPs also preserved his site here

* http://www.helpmvp.com/


But if there are specific tools you need please give a shout
Rob - Help MVP

apler
2008-07-29 21:38:00 UTC
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This could be due to leaving or setting Binary index = no/false. Binary index
option must be yes/true for either auto-index or full-text search to succeed.
Post by Frank
Hello, everybody,
I have an issue with HTML Help Workshop that puzzles me quite a bit: It
does not create a full-text index, no matter what the setting of "Full-text
search" is.
Using a full-text index that is already in a chm file works fine. I just
can't create it.
I use the following version of HTML Help Workshop that I loaded from
HHW: 4.74.8702.0
HHA: 4.74.8702.0
ITCC: 4.72.7277.0
As I said, it doesn't matter if I set "Full-text search=Yes" in the HHP
file.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Frank
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